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Arbors at Clydesdale Park to be considered by Green Park board

Mayor of Green Park pledges to work with police on cut-through traffic issue

A proposed subdivision off Kohrs Road is scheduled to be considered next week by the Green Park Board of Aldermen.

The Board of Aldermen is scheduled to vote on the Arbors at Clydesdale Park, a subdivision with 41 attached homes, when it meets at 7 p.m. Monday, Sept. 16, at City Hall, 11100 Mueller Road.

Developer J.H. Berra is proposing the subdivision at 10995 Kohrs Lane, which is owned by Ward 2 Alderman Tim Thuston.

Thuston has recused himself at past meetings when the proposal has been discussed by aldermen.

Two public hearings — one by the city’s Planning and Zoning Commission and a second by the Board of Aldermen — have attracted dozens of residents who have voiced their opposition to the subdivision. Residents have raised concerns about traffic, particularly cut-through traffic, and potential stormwater runoff.

In early July, the Planning and Zoning Commission voted 5-4 and 6-3 to recommend denial of the subdivision.

During a July 30 work session, the Board of Aldermen discussed the plans for the subdivision, which is proposed to be built on a nearly 6-acre site. Aldermen wanted more information about water runoff and traffic from the development. They also wanted Berra to consider moving an entrance and moving or removing three of the units.

Berra seeks a change in zoning from RS-1, single-family, to RS-1 with a planned residential development.

McBride & Son Homes will build the houses, which will range in price from $175,000 to $205,000. The two-story units will have two-car garages and range in space from 1,250 to 1,750 square feet.

During an Aug. 19 public hearing, Berra Vice President Al Hicks presented revised plans for the subdivision in response to concerns raised by the Planning and Zoning Commission and the Board of Aldermen.

Berra’s original proposal called for 44 units, including three near the intersection of Kohrs Lane and Patsy Drive.

Aldermen had voiced concern about those residents backing out on Kohrs Lane from their driveways. As a result, the three units were eliminated.

The revised plan moves the subdivision entrance closer to Green Park Road, and the entrance that was at Patsy Drive now is a stub street.

The revised plan also addresses concerns about stormwater runoff, Hicks told the board, noting that under Metropolitan St. Louis Sewer District regulations, all water runoff must be captured and treated before it leaves the site.

Engineer Mark Payken of Payken Consulting, a consultant for the city, meet with representatives of Berra and the Sterling Co. to review the revised plans for the proposed subdivision. Green Park City Engineer/Building Commissioner Derrick Madej is employed by Sterling.

Berra’s revised plans for the subdivision address “almost all of the concerns that were stated publicly …,” Payken told aldermen.

“I had stated some ambivalence at our last meeting about the downstream capacity of the storm sewers, and Berra has committed to keeping all the water on site through a combination of berms, swales and area inlets so that all the water on site would go to the detention basin,” he said.

That detention basin, Payken continued, “is going to have sufficient storage to handle a hundred-year storm. So my concerns about the capacity downstream have been allayed. The metering that will be set up on that detention basin will control how much water goes downstream. So I think we’ve gone a long way to addressing that …”

Cleaning and maintaining existing stormwater structures behind Antrill Dive “will help tremendously with those people’s problems that they’ve had historically,” he said.

“… At least as far as I can tell, the only remaining issue is traffic,” Payken said, “and, you know, I’m not sure what can be done about that. And to the extent that that’s a significant factor for the board, they should make their decisions accordingly.”

Regarding the issue of cut-through traffic on Patsy Drive, Mayor Bob Reinagel pledged to work with the county Police Department to find a solution.

“… We’re going to have to take a look at this, get together with the Police Department, find out what our ordinances say (and) take a good, long look at it. If we have to, rewrite the blooming ordinances so the police can enforce them,” he said. “But they’re going to have to tell us what we need to do … This is going to happen because I think I made that commitment a couple of meetings ago. We’re going to look at Patsy (Drive) no matter what and see what we can deal with …”

Ward 1 Alderman Carol Hamilton compared Patsy Drive to “a freeway,” saying she’s witnessed firsthand motorists speeding and not stopping at stop signs.

While a lot of traffic comes from the Southtowne Farms subdivision, she said, “The other half of that traffic is speeding through there with no regard to the speed limit, no regard to anything. They don’t even stop at that stop sign …”

Hamilton later said, “… I think we should focus on doing something for these people on Patsy Drive and not use that as a reason not to go with this project, which I think is a very good project. It’s a very good thing for Green Park.”

Ward 1 Alderman Tony Pousosa said, “I think our focus needs to be to build out Yuma Place and get that connection … That needs to happen … It probably wouldn’t take care of all the traffic, but I think that it would give another option for people in Village of Green Park and Southtowne Farms to divide up our residential traffic so they’re not using one subdivision to get to Lindbergh.”

Some of the aldermen said they were pleased with the turnout at the Aug. 19 meeting.

Ward 2 Alderman Jackie Wilson said, “… Well, I’ll tell you one thing, I am delighted to look up and see a bunch of faces. I have been griping for 10 years that, you know, nobody says anything until after we make a decision because nobody shows up. And then if somebody doesn’t like it, we get hollered at. This is supposed to be both the citizens and the board doing this. But thank you for coming, I’ve never seen this many people at once …”

Board President Fred Baras of Ward 3 said, “… In order for us to know what you are thinking, we need for you to come here. We need for you to talk to us because we don’t know what you want. We don’t know what you want us to do … We’re here to represent the city. We’re here to represent you. So we need to hear from all of you …

“We need for you to speak up because that’s what this city is about. It is for you. It is for the city, and we need to hear from all of you. And I want to thank all of you for coming in here this evening, too.”

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